Is The Mind-Body Connection The Missing Piece To Your Hormone Puzzle?

This is Robin Nielsen. This is our hormone breakthrough Wednesday and I’m so excited to be here with you today. I have a very special guest and I can’t wait to share her with you. These are interesting times, and I hope that you are finding ways to enjoy sheltering-in-place and doing some lovely self-care activities. I think this is a perfect topic for today, all about the mind body connection, because, for many of us, we actually have some time for self-care right now. So I want to welcome the beautiful Dr. Erin Moore.

Hi, thank you, so much for having me. So excited to be here.

I want to tell you a little bit about Dr. Erin Moore before we jump into some awesome information today. You know, I actually met Dr. Aaron when I agreed to go on… Well, actually I had to fill out a huge application to apply to go on this adventure to Nepal to help in a health clinic in a small village outside of Kathmandu. I’d never been on quite an adventure like that before, but I was ready. I was ready to step out of my comfort zone and do something much bigger than myself. So I filled out this huge long application and she accepted it. Then I met her over video just like this when she explained about the nonprofit organization. Then it wasn’t until I actually got all the way to Kathmandu in Nepal that I actually got to meet her in person, and it was an incredible adventure. It’s a story all by itself of how she started this incredible organization. It actually took place over a number of years, and she just fell in love with the people of Nepal and we’ll have her tell us a little bit more about that. It was an incredible adventure for me. I just have come to absolutely, love this beautiful woman, and the work she does is so profound. She’s amazing.

I would like to tell you a little bit about her in a more formal way. Dr. Erin Moore is a Naturopathic physician. She’s an expert in Mind Body Medicine, which we don’t hear very often, and a behavior change teacher and a self marriage coach. Is that a cool concept, or what? She’s motivated to serve by the many women who suffer, because they live in a way that is disconnected from their true selves. The problems that result from this disconnection range from low level anxiety, self sabotage to the physical pathology of chronic disease. Her life’s work is to help women prevent and reverse these symptoms by knowing more deeply and accepting more completely who they are. She’s certified in a technique called holistic counseling, which helps her clients to navigate their own internal world, shining a light on subconscious beliefs of the past that are tied to their current suffering. Her passion for empowering people to transform their own lives, extends all the way to Nepal. Dr. Erin, is the founder and director of ParticipAid, a nonprofit whose mission is to help grow healthy communities in rural Nepal through local engagement. It is the coolest thing that she set up. So welcome Dr. Erin.

Thank you so much.

So great to have you here today. So I want you to share a little bit about how you got started in serving communities in Nepal with actually helping them get access to health care when there is none.

Sure. Well, it was actually a bit of serendipity. I first met this community in 2009. I was with a friend and we are going trekking in a community in the North of Nepal, and our bus broke down. We had two options which were either to track back to Kathmandu, which would have taken several days, or to follow these strangers on the bus that just promised us that they knew someone that spoke English in their village. So we took the risk and walked with these, strangers soon to become friends, who took us to a house in this beautiful village, called Karmidanda, and introduced us to Amanda, who did speak English.

That was really the start of the relationship. My a friend and I, just fell in love with the people and the place and it really the development of this organization was me. Started out as me, just trying to figure out, I really want to come back here, so what do you guys need? Maybe I can provide that. I’d always kind of had it in my mind that I wanted to be a doctor, so this was before I went to medical school. They were like, yeah, we need a doctor. I was like, okay, well we’ll start there. Okay, I was going to do that anyway. So I’ll go to medical school and just slowly, slowly through the years. I worked with the local people to set up an organization, like an NGO on their own. Really it was a long story, but we just kind of learned the ropes of community development together. We would just look ourselves out into the community and see what needed to be done from our perspective, and then we would raise some money. I brought over some doctors and we did it.

But, over the years we learned that unless I was there with money and doctors from America, then things weren’t really happening. We hadn’t engaged the local community. It was more like a band aid from the outside instead of catalyzing sustainable change from within the community. So, in 2014, 2015, we really shifted the way that we were approaching development there, started training local people and bringing in experts, So now there is an organization there that kind of runs the show. In terms of the health care piece, they’ve always been kind of a local facilities, but always under stocked and under-served. So at this point we’re just coming at their request to meet specific needs because they don’t ever, ever see a doctor there. So women’s health care and chronic pain have been our focuses in the past, dental care, gastroenterology and things like that. Just this year, we are finally kicking off product that’s been brewing for a long time, which is a plant medicine project. There’s a lot of interest in naturopathic medicine over there. So now I’m really excited about this new project, because it really is, from the ground up, a local engagement. They do it themselves, we’ll be teaching them in training how to use local plants as medicine, but also in the basic principles of living a naturopathic lifestyle, I’m really excited.

It’s so amazing, just recently the Nepal government actually designated naturopathic medicine as one of their healing modalities. Is that correct?

Yeah, that’s right, and we are working with, Nepal, and it has its own kind of naturopath, but they’ve kind of been, I don’t know, under the radar or not working so much in collaboration with the government. So now the team, that Robin and I worked with, when we were over there, are collaborating with the government and with Nepal’s existing naturopathic doctors to really make this a movement, not just in that one village. So, that same village that I stumbled into from the broken bus, is the same village that Robin came to serve in. So, it’s taken us this long to really kind of figure out a system that works and can create sustainable change. So yeah, we’re at like a precipice, like a transition into now expanding to other parts of the country.

Yeah, and I know, I gotta toot, Robin’s horn here because you guys, the reason that we started working together and became so close after this trip is because of the maybe 12/13 participants we had on this trip, Robin like rocked it the hardest. Everybody got sick, but Robin, and she just had the greatest attitude, and was so wise and brilliant with her patients, and has so much knowledge. I was like, I gotta, I don’t know what this woman secret is, but I had to follow her around for awhile.

So you guys are so lucky, to be in this group, and to have her kinda wisdom and have her looking over you.

Thank you Erin. Yeah, Erin is an amazing leader and it was so cool just to do what I was told. Okay, we’re going to meet at this time, we’re going to do this today, I’m like, okay, I can do that. It was nice not to be in charge, but it’s so nice, you know, to let Erin do her thing and just in such a graceful, easy-going way, but kinda of the opposite of me. It’s like, okay, let’s do this, and she was like, okay, you know you’ve got this laid out for today, and you know what we’re going to do this, and then don’t worry about that. And, I’m like, oh my gosh, that feels so good…(Laughter)

Yeah, so it’s wonderful. So, you know, we have a big thing on our hands right now, right? We’re supposed to be sheltering-in-place, and you know, the world has become a much different place in a really short period of time. I don’t know what’s happening in Oregon, but I’ve heard that Washington, had a lot of cases and we would just love to get your take on what you think about all this and if there’s anything just very specific that you think that would be supportive right now before we get into the mind body connection.

Thank you so much for asking that because I have a lot of big thoughts and feelings about it. I just shared this morning on my own social media. I was inspired to make a video about the naturopathic principle of terrain. So in naturopathic medicine, one thing that really distinguishes us from conventional medicine and the standard allopathic model is that we never just treat the bug. It’s like, it’s not about the virus. It’s not about the bacteria. It’s about when we say terrain, we mean the place where the virus or the bacteria lives like aka you. Your tissues, the fluids, the blood, the lymph, the mind, you know, the mind body that creates this, that is the ecosystem where the virus lives. So we either can create an ecosystem where its virus can thrive or where it has no chance of surviving. So when allopathic doctors are having this conversation, we have, you know, we have no treatment for this. There is nothing we can do. We have to wait for the vaccine. I’m so fortunate and grateful that we have naturopathic doctors, because there’s so much we can do, you know, to treat the terrain. This is the work that you’re doing here all the time, right? Really just building up the reserves of the body so that, a healthy system, healthy ecosystem, is not compatible with this virus. So that’s just all the basic things you know of a healthy lifestyle, healthy diet and having fresh air and love and laughter, all the pieces that we can maybe get to later. But one thing I also wanted to say, this pandemic, has kinda forced us all to be kind of a bit in isolation, like literally, sometimes for some people, to really be with ourselves. It’s forcing us to focus on our own terrain, on our own like internal environment and what we can do in our lives to help, to prevent infection or just to like bolster ourselves to make us more healthy and harmonious beings.

I did just want to add what is a really important piece here and that is the concept of the; as within, so without, like what’s happening on a micro scale also happening on a macroscale. So we should be sure to think about our relationship with the planet now and how over time, like this relationship our abuse and overuse of resources, has brought us to the point where even this sort of pandemic is possible? So, I really hope that we all take this time to just reevaluate. Our whole lives have changed by necessity, and so it’s really an opportunity for us. It’s just amazing, the whole world would need to reevaluate our relationship with ourselves, with our families and with the planet, and, so it’s really powerful in that way.

So beautifully said, what a great concept. Like what’s within, is without. That’s amazing.

I was talking to a friend yesterday and there’s two different states. I can feel, the collective anxiety, you know, because there’s so much we don’t know… how long is this gonna last? How bad is it going to get? Who’s going to live, who’s going to die? Am I going to get it? What’s going to happen to me? There’s so many unknowns, so, we can, and the whole world has their fears, expressing in a different way, so we can feel that. But I really, maybe we can help to remind people that there is just other state, you know, that’s all just like thinking in thoughts, but really we are, connected with every other person in this world that is going through the same experience and being pushed to heal ourselves and to reevaluate how we want to, on the other side of this, how do we want to come out of it?

Yeah, I’ve gotten a couple of, PM’s, Personal Message, from Jabrouge you know, who I call him the mayor of Karmidanda

Kinda an unofficial mayor, and he says that tourism has just completely stopped there. So everywhere you can imagine it’s happening, a huge impact on each and every one of our lives. And so, you know, what that means is that he doesn’t have a job right now, kind of thing. So it’s, yeah, it’s impacting all of us. They may be a little bit safer because they’re kind of already, you know, quarantined as a village, but you know, it’s impacting every single household across the world.

They also don’t use toilet paper, they wash. So they don’t have a toilet paper crisis. They get their food from the land. You know, they’re not going to have a food crisis, they grow it.

Right, they grow it, yes, they’re very self-sufficient there.

So lots of pros and cons to that kind of lifestyle. They don’t have all the opportunities that we do, but it’s much simpler and the basics are taken care of. When we find ourselves in our big fancy houses and fancy cars and we can’t even get toilet paper, it really makes you think about how we’ve constructed this show.

That’s so true, they don’t have to worry about being out of toilet paper or paper towels, they don’t use any of that. So, let’s get started on the mind body connection, because it’s such a pertinent topic right now. This is how we can get reconnected because I heard someone explain how fear is really just this, or panic is just this, you know, fear without really having steps to address it. We’re just kind of reacting and we’re not thinking logically, and so, this is a wonderful time for us to deploy some of the things, that Erin is going to teach us today. And, really about that mind body connection and why it’s so important right now. You are doing like this incredible work.

I have been so blessed to be able to learn this first hand from Dr. Erin, I have worked with her privately and it’s really an amazing process. What I wanted to share is that, one of the reasons that I ended up in this profession and helping people with their health is because I read an article in “Town And Country Magazine”, you know, it’s that magazine that has all the pictures of people getting married, and all the socialites getting married. Well, I thought there has to be some gem in here. So I remember I was at our family’s ranch, and I’m looking through the magazine, and I get to the very last page, and there is this beautiful article in this beautiful spread, with Dr. John Sarno, who was a back surgeon. This was long before I went back to school and became a nutritionist and focused on hormones and all that. I was so fascinated because he said that, this is coming from a back surgeon now, right, he said, “80% of the back surgeries that he did were, unsuccessful …80%.” So he said, you know, my profession is not working. So he had to figure out how to help these people heal their back pain without surgery. Because what he noticed was that on the x-rays is that people, with no changes in their spinal column or in their bone structure, had pain, experienced severe pain and people, with like pretty crazy changes in their spinal column, had no pain. So, he started bringing all this together and ended up doing a lot of the work or the work that you’re doing. But, I’m sure you guys have your own styles and stuff, but it was the same thing. It’s like, okay, I’ve got to get these people to figure out what’s not serving them in their lives and how they’re disconnected from their body. So Dr. Erin what is the mind body connection?

Well, thank you for opening up with that, that’s a great example, because, and it kinda of ties back to what I was talking about in the very beginning about terrain and how conventional allopathic medicine is just so focused on like the bug or in this case like the disc. If it looks this way, it’s very kind of a formulaic; you know, and in that way, that formula can be very complex. But at least it’s figureoutable, if we can move these parts this way, but the system is just so much more complex. So the mind body connection maybe defined differently by every person you ask, but for me, it’s funny because I actually talk about the mind, body connection, but I think about them more as a mind body unit. So, maybe the relationship would be a better way to put it. But when we are, talking about the mind body connection, we’re talking about the way that primarily the mind has impacted the body over time. How does inevitably, whatever is happening in our minds will show up in our bodies. This can happen, like with the, COVID-19 virus and the panic and the fear that people are feeling about that. We can think about, all the unknowns that fear will build and you feel the tightness in your chest and, do your heart races and your palms get sweaty. This is a really clear example of the mind body connection or when you, if you call out somebody who’s unprepared and bring them on stage, they’re gonna turn bright red. Or at the same time when we were talking earlier about the, kind of peace, a sense of peace that comes with knowing that we’re all, in this. This inward journey together and this opportunity, to reflect and heal our bodies and our relationships and our planet.

I feel that’s my chest, is just relaxing, and my heartbeat’s, slowing. So depending on the state of our mind, if it’s conscious or consciously thinking of, it’s easy sometimes to feel this, reaction sensation in the body. Sometimes anxiety is a gnawing feeling, in the stomach or it manifests different ways for everybody. But, when it becomes an issue for health is when it’s the subconscious mind. Having an impact on the body and this is where they become one in the same. Often it’s said, and I love this saying, that the body is the subconscious mind. And so we can say here, this is the mind, body connection. But, really it’s all just one unit, and manifesting in different ways. So this idea of the body as a subconscious mind. Everything that we are aware that we are thinking right now is our conscious thought. Everything else that we’ve forgotten or we’re not actively thinking about is subconscious. So, these are often, the beliefs that drive our anxieties and insecurities are not enoughness, are what are the kind of like negative motivators, that kind of push us too far, or, in ways that aren’t really true to ourselves to get love, or, appreciation or feel like we value or matter.

All of us have some kind of conditioning program and our subconscious mind, even if we’re not aware of it. That can have an impact on our bodies. So the mind body connection is really about, in terms of a therapy therapeutic approach, is about kind of resolving that disconnect because of course, any limitations that we might have imagined on our lovability or how much we matter, are not true, they’re not really us. We can, we can say that, but it’s a deep work to really understand that and believe that. The work that I do with clients is really helping them to release the subconscious beliefs that are not true. Replace them with ones that are true, and, as my teacher says, “the body is a faithful puppy dog of the mind.” Like what? Yeah, what I said before, what happens in the mind ultimately filters down through the body. So that is one, really subtle and profound way, to treat chronic disease. How is that for an explanation?

Wow, that’s pretty awesome, and the thing that I learned is that every single cell experiences the emotion that your brain is, the signals that your brain is sending. So, if I’m feeling fear, every single cell in my body experiences that fear. We need that because if we’re trying to save our lives, right? If we really are running from the tiger, then you know, we need every cell in our body to be geared towards saving our lives. But it could be that you lost your car keys or it could be that you’re stuck in traffic or it could be that you, that like me, I feel like I have to do the right thing or I’m not going to get love right, or whatever it is. It’s like that underlying stressor that is in our subconscious that we don’t know about and I loved what you said about how the body is a subconscious mind, that is so powerful. So, you can totally use me as an example, but you know, I’ve had three frozen shoulders, right? So, Erin’s like, okay, let’s do this.

I had one here, and then I had one here, and then I had went back here. If you’ve ever had a frozen shoulder, you know that you can’t lift your arm, more than a couple of inches. I learned how to use a mouse with my left hand because I couldn’t lift my right arm. It was when I became a nutritious and was doing this work, so not more than, six or seven years ago, and it just kept happening and I’m like, and I can actually tell you exactly what was going on in my life when this happened. There was a lot of major stress going on, so, it was really wonderful to do the work with Erin and figure out what was, kind-of underlying that. Do you want to talk more about that?

I will comment on that because it’s parallel to what’s happening globally now. If you think about it, so in naturopathic medicine we’re also like, our philosophy is that our symptoms are messengers, and that we should listen to them. We shouldn’t suppress them. We should listen to the message that they’re trying to tell us, and then that is like our healing capacity trying to express itself. Then our work is to clear the way, for our body to heal itself. So, with your frozen shoulder, so if you guys know Robin, she is the most proficient doer that ever did. Nobody does, like Robin does, you know! You imagine this frozen shoulder and you literally can’t, put your hair up. You can’t put your shirt on, like you’re put in a situation where you can’t do. It’s like your body kind of forcing you, it depends on how everyone’s individual expression, but, this was the issue that you needed to look at. What do I need? What’s driving me so much to do? In this, in our global situation now, all of us kind of got a figurative frozen shoulder. We can’t do, we can’t go, go, go anymore. Or, for some of us, you and I are in a different situation. We should check ourselves in because we’re working online and it’s like, oh great, now we can hyper-do, but, we should be careful. But, a lot of us are now, we can’t go to work, we shouldn’t burn. All the things that we might have done to make ourselves feel valuable and worthy or to prove our worth to ourselves or anybody else we might not be able to do anymore. Everyone’s unique situation is really gonna force them to look at, the deeper healing that is gonna to shine through, ready to come thru.

Yeah, that’s so true, for a frozen shoulder, you’re right. I had to stop doing a lot of things. I physically couldn’t, and so that’s a really good way to call. So then of course my brain is thinking, okay, how is my body not keeping up with this? What more could I give it? What more could I do? Instead of saying, okay, you know, just chill. Although, you know, I had to really chill cause that’s what you have to do, to heal a frozen shoulder. I was given advice, you know, to maybe do surgery or to take some pretty potent, drugs. I just opted to use tequila for a short time, to get through less painful side effects. They take a really long time to heal so they can take easily, up to a year to heal. I had one that, took longer than that and I just kept asking myself, okay, you know, what’s going on here? How am I, not showing up in a way that’s really serving myself? So, now I can happily say I don’t have any shoulder problems, but it’s a lot of work and it’s not always the food you eat, the lifestyle you live, the nutrients you take. It has so much to do with what’s going on in your subconscious that, we’re not even aware of. That’s incredibly powerful information, and I love the analogy that you gave, of the world kinda of has a frozen shoulder right now. I look at it, and I mean we’re all looking at it, differently and I feel for so many people on so many levels and like you said, you can just like feel this fear and panic and you know, all of that. But on another level, I feel so grateful that we can reconsider things right now. We can start evaluating everything that is in our lives, even the people we’re connected with, the lives that we’ve set up for ourselves. We can completely redo them right now. We can make a new agreement with ourselves and how we show up in this world and I’d love for you to talk about that for a minute.

Thank you so much, that was awesome cause I was just actually talking about this, this morning. The physiology of anxiety and excitement are the same. It’s only perspective, right? So we can feel anxious about the state of the world and all of the unknowns and what’s gonna happen or we can be excited about what’s on the other side, because we do have to go through, the only way out is through, so, I use that trick a lot in my life. Whenever I’m feeling anxious about something that I know is good for me to do, there’s a different kind of fear of things that are, an actual threat to your environment. But, yeah, it’s just a shift in perspective. You know, the heart racing, sweaty palms, and tightness. It can be either anxiety or if we have a vision of what is on the other side of how we’re going to transform in this process, then we can easily shift that to excitement, and that’s just a practice. If you try it once, believe me it’s true, and then it just takes practice. But, is this a good time to talk about my, planning party?

Yes, let’s talk about your planning party and then I also want to share about, your quiz. That women can you know, I think the quiz is really important to talk about maybe first and then we can jump into your planning party.

Okay, can I squeeze one more thing in before the quiz? It’s super quick, this is my, because I really want to leave you guys with a tool that you can take out of here right now, to start like healing yourself, this is really, it can be really challenging work. I have 100% faith in you all that you can do this work yourself, but just like Robin said, it’s sometimes really it takes everyone in their own time, It takes time to really see inside yourself. It’s hard to see something when you’re inside of it. Robin mentioned at the beginning, I’m a self marriage coach, so, in my mind, self healing and self marriage are the same thing. The first skill that I teach to all of my students and clients and all of you guys is a tool in self-kindness. So, this is called undercover kindness, this little trick I’m going to teach you right now. It is undercover because you can do it anytime, anywhere, and nobody will have to know that you’re doing it. So you don’t have to be like embarrassed, all this was me being kind to myself. So we can all do it together right now you don’t even have to close your eyes, but there’s three components of it. First your breath, so it’s your, your breath, your hands and your words. So first, we’ll do the breath, so, everybody just take a nice deep breath in and out (INHALE) (EXHALE). Imagine that your breath is saturated with kindness. Kindness is in every little drop of your breath, and it can go anywhere in your body, from the tip of your head to the tips of your toes, wherever you might feel that tension or that tightness. Just breathe in kindness, and this is really easy at the beginning to do with deep breaths, but you can after practice, do it with shallow breaths. And, then the next part is your hands. So, if you just hold your hands up for a minute, you can be quiet and you can feel, a little tingle, a little buzz, and I like to imagine that that is kindness. You know, this is your own energy coming through. So then like placing it on your heart or anywhere on your body. This isn’t super undercover, right? If you’re, with other people when you want to practice this, just a hand on the thigh, can help. It just really like knowing that through your touch is coming, your kindness for yourself and um, uh, if you are by yourself, I like the hair pat, the face pat, some of you know, whatever is just like a nice kind gesture towards you. And then the third, if you’re driving, you can just loosen your grip breathing and soften your chop and vegetables. Just like check in and like loosen up your arms, don’t hold so tight. Folding laundry is another great time to do this. And, then the final one is just with your words. So if you’re in a specific situation where you really need kindness, like you did the best you could or I forgive you, but in general just I love you, to yourself, I love you! Breathe in and soft hands and I love you, and that practice, like best on mundane moments like cooking or driving or folding laundry. If you practice that, that is how you make being kind to yourself, like an instinct, a habit, it’s how it worked for me. It’s gotten me through so many hard situations tasks that I hated to do, just undercover kindness, for hours. So that is one easy thing that we can all do, to start just to building that relationship, a foundation of kindness and the way that we work with ourselves so that whatever comes up we can meet it with kindness. So I hope you guys, liked that tip and then the quiz we were talking about, it’s actually pretty fun. I like it, it’s a quiz that I crafted to help you determine if there is mind, body, misalignment is an issue for you because it can be kind of hard to tease out and there’s lots of different ways that it can manifest. It can be like a little anxiety or you’re sabotaging yourself or you have a chronic disease. This quiz will be, basically just like a minute and a half. It’ll take you to take it and 10 questions. At the end it gives you kind of a grade from mild to significant. How in line or out of line, are your mind and body, and that quiz is in my Facebook group. Which is, there’s a lot going on there, now I have my Facebook group. Like we were talking about earlier, so Self Marriage Facebook groups. So it’s where its totally for free. I’m kinda of helping women, walk through this process of self, marriage. So we go through, we talk about all these different, concepts of self-kindness is one of the foundations. This month was self honesty where we talked about how do we really look to know ourselves better. Next month is actually going to be self protection. How can we look at our protective mechanisms and actually protect ourselves in the current environment? It’s a great group and so if we, if you head over there, which Robin can share a link, then the quiz is, the first thing in the group, at the top of the page, anything else you think we should talk about?

Yeah, so your group is, how would they find your group? Rebecca, will post the link. So it’s, self marriage?

The group is called “How To Marry Yourself”, and the link is, the URL is solve-marriage.

So, Rebecca will find that and post the link so that you can hop on over there and take the quiz. So the quiz is going to really help to give you some insights as to how, your subconscious is affecting your body and the symptoms that you may be experiencing. I think that, the one of the favorite things that you said today is the body is the subconscious mind. I love that because, I always tell and always talk about how, our body whispers to us, and starts to tell us things. Oftentimes we don’t listen and then it starts to talk a little bit louder, and then it’s, sometimes it takes our body to be screaming at us, like with my frozen shoulders, to say, okay, sister, now you’ve got to pay attention to me.

Right, I hear you, Okay!

I always encourage, all of my tribe to listen, when your body is whispering to you. So Dr. Erin is just the most beautiful soul in the world and she teaches us these incredible ways that we can really get more in touch and get our mind body more connected because even though we may resist it, it’s all one. Whatever’s going on here is going on down here.

And, vice versa too, sometimes there’s all different ways to heal the body. This quiz, it just helps people with the first step, which is awareness. I would just invite you, if you’re like oh my God, it says I’m significantly missile, hind, go ahead and practice that undercover kindness.

Yeah A.S.A.P. get on it.

We’ve lived our whole lives like this, it’s also, the way that we’ve survived. It’s the way that we are, who we are, and we only learn this information, when we have the tools to heal it, when we’re ready. So that awareness is a beautiful first step.

Yes, and if you have any questions for Dr. Erin, make sure that you just post them right here under this video and she’ll answer them for you. And I really encourage you to hop on over to her Facebook group and, just follow along as she guides you as to how you can become, more connected with yourself. This is just a beautiful time for us to do that. It just feels so good, so good.

Thank you so much for having me, It was great to be with you all today.

Thank you so much for sharing your wisdom, Dr. Erin, we’re so grateful to you.

My pleasure.

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